Mediation between transgendered woman and nightclub owner could happen next week.
Update: Nightclub owner says allegations of discrimination against transgendered woman a misundersta
| Started 2 years ago by John McDonald | (22 posts) (3 voices) |
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Posted by unregistered user: Sean
I guess I don’t understand this “persons” view that it is wrong for society to make her feel uncomfortable but it is OK for “it” to make others uncomfortable because of “it’s” choices and then the idea a letter from a social worker is a “carte blanche” to spite societies conventions. This person needs to get off her soapbox, stop preaching and stop being so selfish and realise that “she” is causing others feelings of stress and anxiety and will be dealt with as such.
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Posted by unregistered user: kaj
this is a very sad state of affairs
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Posted by unregistered user: Sarah
Sean,
You are right! You don’t understand and neither do I BUT,
The bigger issue here is the fact that they put a camera under a stall in a BATHROOM, then accused he/she of doing drugs and then allowed this person to remain in the establishment.Forget the Anxiety of others. If this is true, this establishment should have called the police if there was a concern of “Safety and Anxiety” of others.
The drug issue aside (if there is one)
Every individual reserves the right and freedom to live whatever way is comfortable to them.
In all honesty, I give this individual kudos for expressing their TRUE self…ESPECIALLY at a Night club in Kelowna.
Sean, your comments about “choice,” and calling this individaul an “it” is discusting. You need a reality check.
Step out of your GLASS box and I’ll Quote you;
“stop preaching and stop being so selfish and realize that “YOU” have NOW caused others feelings of stress and anxiety with your uneducated comments!
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Posted by unregistered user: Sean
Sarah, so instead of coming up with a valid argument you chose to attack me…well done. If someone chooses to live outside of societies norms then you cannot expect to be dealt with in a normal fashion P.S. learn to spell
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Posted by unregistered user: chewy1979
Not sure how I feel about this one.
Though I think everyone should be entitled to dress how they want, it should not come at the expense of anyone else.
I am not a woman, but I can only speculate that some women might feel VERY uncomfortable sharing a washroom with a man (despite the clothes he is wearing at the time). Though I don’t agree with how the night club supposedly handled the situation, I do agree with them asking this person to use the men’s washroom. If you have all the “equipment” that makes you a male, then use the men’s washroom.
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Posted by unregistered user: Emily
Let’s look at this issue in terms of competing rights. On the one hand, chewy1979 is saying that some cisgender (ie. non-trans) women would feel uncomfortable with a male-appearing person wearing female clothing coming into the restroom, finding a stall, doing their business, washing their hands, and leaving. (I might also point out that some cisgender women can also be masculine-appearing, such as butch lesbians, who have just as much right to use the women’s room as any other cisgender woman, yet also can cause this same discomfort for others in the restroom with them).
Let’s compare that to a transgender woman going into a male washroom. She faces the fear of ridicule, humiliation, and possibly physical violence from others in the restroom.
When put in perspective, I think the choice is pretty clear. I might add that the prevalence of sexual assault from trans women (a common fear used by cisgender women to exclude trans women from women’s spaces) is no higher than the prevalence of sexual assault from cisgender women.
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Posted by unregistered user: Sarah
Sean,
Calling the kettle black aren’t we?
Realize IS NOT spelled with a “S” unless you’re British or French…As for mine, I had a typo and one error. I’m human…
AND who are you to say what “Society Norms are??”
Thank you for a great debate today. I would like to ask that we agree to disagree. I hope the rest of your day is good and that you keep healthy.
Cheers.
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Posted by unregistered user: ObamaLaw
Obama just signed into law at new bill that makes it a crime to assault someone because of their sexual preference or identity (in the US). I read it as any type of assault, physical, verbal or emotional.
It is about time that we practiced acceptance of everyone, regardless of our personal opinions – especially here in Canada.
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Posted by unregistered user: whatthe
ok…all i gotta say is this: people with XX chromosomes use the female washroom, & those with XY chromosomes use the male washroom. how freakin difficult is that?
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