Local Mounties to reinforce the letters of the new distracted driver law.
Just holding a cell phone while behind the wheel is now against the law
Just holding a cell phone while behind the wheel is now against the law
| Started 2 years ago by Joe Fries | (20 posts) (2 voices) |
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Posted by unregistered user: John
Holy Cow! We need bluetooth now more then ever!
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Posted by unregistered user: Peter William Lount
This anti-cell phone law is unconstitutional, plain and simple for it assumes that one had diminished capacity when one is using a cell phone or other device in the car while driving. I’d like them to prove that I had diminished capacity even once while using a cell phone at any time for the past two decades.
Sure if a person is in an accident and it can be shown that a cell phone or a distraction was occurring and that that caused the accident that is one thing and the proper burden of proof of a contributing factor.
Failing an actual problem, such as an accident, it well neigh impossible for them to prove that a driver has “diminished capacity” just because they were using a cell phone. It’s not like the case of alcohol.
However, to assume we are all guilty of diminished capacity just for holding a device or using a cell phone while driving is insanity and fails the burden of proof of guilt.
To blanket assume that everyone has diminished capacity using a cell phone device while driving is itself a serious crime against our basic rights and freedom.
Since they (the politicians who arbitrarily make arbitrary laws) give certain people exceptions they are further widening the gap between first class citizens – those with the power and special privileges above the law – and those second class humans that are forced against their will to obey insane laws that violate basic principles of freedom free from guilt.
This is another form of guilt by association. Have the phone in your hand while in the drivers seat and you are guilty. Insane.
Be very clear the burden that diminished capacity to drive MUST be proven by the prosecutors if you are faced with this insane charge. This is true especially if you’re on the phone and safely operating the vehicle properly and with awareness on the road conditions, other vehicles and pedestrians.
I think we’ll see that there are many defenses against this insane law and it’s very possible that it will be struck down as unconstitutional in a free country that values it’s freedom.
If someone is driving while not paying attention to the road conditions then they might be a road hazard however to blanket make us all criminals guilty of an offense for using a cell phone while driving is a dangerous sign of a totalitarian mentality.
One must fight back against the totalitarian mentality of those in the CULT of “government” who want to attempt to control every aspect of our lives at all costs to our freedom. Use your Natural Veto Power as a living human being and say NO to this. Fight these charges in court. File counter charges against officers, prosecutors, court staff, government members and staff, and judges who implement this draconian police state tactic of control over you.
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Posted by unregistered user: Buzzard
Really, don’t they have anything better to do?
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Posted by unregistered user: Craig
Three things wrong here: Out of-provincers get warnings to accomodate the games? Seriously, “Come, break our laws, we’ll leave you alone”. I’m actually FROM a non-commie province (Alberta) and I find that ruling insane. Make the law for everyone. And on that note, “Police are exempted as they need to run every plate they see even if it means they’re a little distracted.” Again, the law should be the law for everyone. Second officer in the car can run plates, or it can be done safely while the officer is parked. Third dumb thing is that I actually support this law, and hope Alberta gets it soon, as I’ve been nearly hit by texting teens at least twice in 2009, and that’s two more close calls than I should have had. Anyways, enjoy another grab at your cash, BC drivers! Hope it helps pay down the olympic-debt!
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Posted by unregistered user: Ed
So I guess fiddling with your car’s radio is now illegal…
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Posted by unregistered user: Jubal
Peter, by your absolutely over the top post it is quite apparent you use your cell phone allot while driving, text message while driving too?
Just a few days ago I saw an idiot run a red while text messaging then damn near hit a pedestrian(whom also wasn’t paying much attention)
Yes this is a blanket law, but I think it is a good one that will save lives.
Quit whining and pull over to take phone calls.
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Posted by unregistered user: Don
What about truckers and R.V.drivers and their c.b.’s ?
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Posted by unregistered user: andrew
This is unbelievably stupid. How am I supposed to change the song I’m listening to on my phone? Apparently I have to pull over now if I want to skip a song, or switch to a different music folder. This is something that takes about 4 or 5 seconds and now it’s illegal. I can understand if you’re some moron yakking on your phone, or texting, but not simply holding the phone. This has to be one of the stupidest laws EVER passed.
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Posted by unregistered user: Peter William Lount
Actually I don’t text while driving. Cell phone use isn’t a problem when paying attention to the road as the main priority.
Yes, there are idiots out there driving and taking away their cell phone while they are driving won’t change their bad road habits. They’ll still do the crazy stuff like unannounced u-turns in the middle of intersections or yelling at their passengers or whatever they do or weaving in traffic while driving slow or making fast stops or not driving in their lane.
You can’t punish us good drivers because the others are whacked in the head or half a sleep or drunk or high or medicated or angry. You need to address the whacked in the head drivers directly for dangerous driving.
Casting a wide net is illegal as it assumes we are all criminals.
So Jubal get the “idiot who ran the red” for running the red! Did you get his plate number and report him? If not why not? Don’t punish me or the rest of us for HIS or your crime Jubal!
By the way don’t tell me to to shut up Jubal, you don’t have that right. You can be a lemming and bow down and have your rights curtailed willy nilly at the whim of the power brokers all you want but don’t force the rest of us to take it in the end as you again don’t have that right to abridge our freedom.
Truckers, taxis and commercial two way radio operators along with police, emergency crews, etc… are magically exempt somehow from these unproven alleged effects of diminished ability to drive and communicate. Magic thus invalid. In fact the fact that they are exempt is a defense against this unjust law! Since they can drive safe so can I! In fact I’m a safe driver!
If the police fail to cite themselves for their own use of communications or computer gear while they are driving they are saying they are special people who deserve better treatment than others and are above equality in the law. Typical.
Treating one group as better than another leads to abuses. This unjust and unconstitutional law will fracture society even more than it is.
It shall be interesting to see how it falls apart.
My full comment is here: http://pathstoknowledge.net/2010/01/04/police-state-deepens-in-british-columba-with-anti-cell-phone-laws
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