Comments on: Okanagan Nation Alliance calls on George Abbott to address aboriginal land title issues

By: sandy

sandy — Sat, 13 Mar 2010 03:35:25 +0000

Heh Al, it’s obvious from which “inside” you are referring to…the Eurocentric chauvanistic, upper middle-classed priveleged.

By: Al

Al — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 20:46:21 +0000

Sandy………..please get a grip on the issues because quite frankly until you are on the inside you and others haven’t a clue about the internal thinking….enough said!!

By: sandy

sandy — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 19:46:43 +0000

Ahh, just love your condescending tone Al. As a matter of fact I have researched this topic extensively and suspect your knowledge is based on government accounts and websites and possibly school history textbooks…

As for the Osoyoos Indian Band…if faced with the same issue as OKIB is with regards to its watershed and the courst response, you can be darned sure their response would be the same!

By: Al

Al — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 19:19:25 +0000

I’ve forgotten more about the modern day treat process than you know…senior levels of government don’t want to engage because they are fully aware of the consequences. Let me reassure you I am not a racist in any sense of the word. What I am is sick and tried of the First Nations of this country telling me this is their land….On the contrary, while it may have been settled, not taken, in a way that we find unacceptable today the fact remains it was occupied, not unlike in historical terms the Roman, Ottoman, or Spanish Empires were in the past. We owe niothing to the First Nation and yes it has been costly but it has also been their economy. That is why I believe to settle this matter given each of them $1.0 million and say we are sorry for the hundred time but it is now over. Give them special rights to hunt, fish and gather the impact this will have laughable as most wouldn’t know a berry from a cherry or a salmon from a kokanee.

By: Say What ?

Say What ? — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:26:46 +0000

Hey Al

The tone and basis of your position is not so thinly disguised racism. Land claims in B.C. were “settled” at the point of a gun, by government supplied alcoholism, family break-ups through abusive religion, and European diseases.
The settlement “process” costs the governments more in legal fees and stalling than what a settlement would cost,(but it does employ lawyers, politicians, and government employees. So don’t talk like you know anything about the treaty process- you do not.
The real question is- what will Tolko gain by lying about their wood supply (the Armstrong mill is full of logs- yet they claim they cannot run because they are out of logs)! The province is mired in unsaleable bug-killed pine, so why is Brown Creek so necessary ? Maybe it’s not the OIB, maybe someone else is looking for a big government payday, on the pretext of a fight with the OIB.
It costs the provincial government $600 million to run the forest service in exchange for $350 million in stumpage, so are you going to try to tell me that standing timber in Brown has any value at all ??
Something, my friend, is rotten in Denmark.

By: Al

Al — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:44:43 +0000

Sandy…..you need to research the issues. I won’t even try to explain the background I have with the issues but suffice to say it is extensive. The courts are pandering liberals…they are not mainstreet Canada’s view of the First Nations and no mainstreet is not bias. It is time to forget the past …this country was settled by Europeans and it’s time to quite asking for handouts to correct the wrong doings that our forefathers did to your forefathers.

First Nations as communities have no more right to Crown land or it’s resources than any other segment of our society…There are environmental laws in place to protect watersheds…while not perfect they exist. It’s time for the First Nations to look outward…an example is the Osoyoos Band. They recognize the 21st century and are striving to make the lives and wellbeing of their people better by work not blockades. Blockades haven’t and will not work. It is no surprize that senior governments have not addressed your outrageousness….they are being politically correct but if they had the interests of Canada in prespective they would but these protestors in jail for breaking the law each and every time until YOU GET IT…your past way of life is over so start to become part of the solution not the ongoing problem.

By: sandy

sandy — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 15:10:40 +0000

Typical comments that wreak of a total lack of knowledge to the issues. The government of British Columbia has created the problem First Nation’s communities face regarding land claim issues. The government of Canada has basically turned a blind eye to this. There are laws in place that apply to the settlement of land claim issues which are applicable TODAY!

Research the issues before you beak off and show how little you know. I dare you to look past your strongly held stereotypical beliefs and consider there just might be some legitimacy in these arguments.

ps. Please stop with the “Get a job like the rest of us” racist mentality!

By: Al

Al — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 05:48:24 +0000

The more things change the more things remain the same. Give each Aborignal the right to fish , hunt and gather as much as they want for eternity. Provide every aborignal man, women and child a $1.0 million and thats the finality.

But then what would poor leaders like Philips do if he could not continue to cry fowl and collect the bands money to his live style and corruption. Maybe he could get a job….now that would be novel.

YOU FOLKS JUST NEED TO GET OVER IT……

By: time for change

time for change — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 04:56:14 +0000

Maybe these people need to get a job like the rest of us.
looks like to much spare time?

By: grumpydigger

grumpydigger — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 03:10:07 +0000

we should be getting used to, the RCMP arresting people that illegally blockaded roads and disobey Supreme Court orders…….

just make it easy on everyone, tell the government how much money it will take to buy you off ………. this time……