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		<title>By: Dave P</title>
		<link>http://www.kelowna.com/2009/10/24/if-it-walks-like-a-liberal-talks-like-a-liberal-and-spends-money-like-a-liberal-what-is-it/comment-page-1/#comment-4275</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 17:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whaaat! The Liebs starved the blue constituencies for over 20 years with their pork barrelling. Even if you accept the arument that there is an imbalance toward the CPC ridings, it would be justified as &quot;catch up&quot;. Just so&#039;s the Liebs on here know, I enjoy the ability to spend the lower taxes since 2006 the way I see fit, not as decided by some gnome in Ottawa  Surplus, courtesy of the Liebs- My Butt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whaaat! The Liebs starved the blue constituencies for over 20 years with their pork barrelling. Even if you accept the arument that there is an imbalance toward the CPC ridings, it would be justified as &#8220;catch up&#8221;. Just so&#8217;s the Liebs on here know, I enjoy the ability to spend the lower taxes since 2006 the way I see fit, not as decided by some gnome in Ottawa  Surplus, courtesy of the Liebs- My Butt.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.kelowna.com/2009/10/24/if-it-walks-like-a-liberal-talks-like-a-liberal-and-spends-money-like-a-liberal-what-is-it/comment-page-1/#comment-4267</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 16:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW - Thank you Paul and Steve for raiding the public service pension funds for (drumroll, please) 30 billion dollars of EXCESS funding (50% paid by the employees).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW &#8211; Thank you Paul and Steve for raiding the public service pension funds for (drumroll, please) 30 billion dollars of EXCESS funding (50% paid by the employees).</p>
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		<title>By: VIP</title>
		<link>http://www.kelowna.com/2009/10/24/if-it-walks-like-a-liberal-talks-like-a-liberal-and-spends-money-like-a-liberal-what-is-it/comment-page-1/#comment-4266</link>
		<dc:creator>VIP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 16:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Liberals should not complain about labelling your opponents as &#039;just visiting&#039; or with documented quotes from Iggy. They invented labelling with Harper&#039;s &#039;secret agenda&#039; that they had no proof for, nor did it ever surface in years of a Harper government. Wake up grits, your desperate drive to self-destruction is amazing. You&#039;ll soon be in 4th place. I suppose you are already plotting to replace Iggy with Rae, totally unelectable in Ontario and likely in most of the country. We need another opposition party for the sake of democracy, unfortunately the NDP hasn&#039;t quite built up the credibility, their leader should have been the leader&#039;s wife.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Liberals should not complain about labelling your opponents as &#8216;just visiting&#8217; or with documented quotes from Iggy. They invented labelling with Harper&#8217;s &#8217;secret agenda&#8217; that they had no proof for, nor did it ever surface in years of a Harper government. Wake up grits, your desperate drive to self-destruction is amazing. You&#8217;ll soon be in 4th place. I suppose you are already plotting to replace Iggy with Rae, totally unelectable in Ontario and likely in most of the country. We need another opposition party for the sake of democracy, unfortunately the NDP hasn&#8217;t quite built up the credibility, their leader should have been the leader&#8217;s wife.</p>
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		<title>By: Durward</title>
		<link>http://www.kelowna.com/2009/10/24/if-it-walks-like-a-liberal-talks-like-a-liberal-and-spends-money-like-a-liberal-what-is-it/comment-page-1/#comment-4265</link>
		<dc:creator>Durward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 15:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it walks like a liberal, talks like a liberal and spends like a Liberal then it was probably the victim of the Coalition&#039;s 70 billion dollar stimulus blackmail to support the government.
Harper never had stimulus in the original budget update, the Coalition demanded the spending.
In our Constitution we are all guaranteed the right to Life, Liberty and the security of person.  
When your born into debt created by government how does that jive with our right to liberty?
How can we have Liberty if we are used as collateral for loans that will exist our whole lives?.
Deficit spending is un-constitutional.
Strange how this country cheery picks which constitutional laws it enforces, those that never were now are,, those that are guaranteed are ignored.
99% of us had no hand in creating these debts nor did we benefit by them, but we are legally bound to pay them?, not according to the Constitution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it walks like a liberal, talks like a liberal and spends like a Liberal then it was probably the victim of the Coalition&#8217;s 70 billion dollar stimulus blackmail to support the government.<br />
Harper never had stimulus in the original budget update, the Coalition demanded the spending.<br />
In our Constitution we are all guaranteed the right to Life, Liberty and the security of person.<br />
When your born into debt created by government how does that jive with our right to liberty?<br />
How can we have Liberty if we are used as collateral for loans that will exist our whole lives?.<br />
Deficit spending is un-constitutional.<br />
Strange how this country cheery picks which constitutional laws it enforces, those that never were now are,, those that are guaranteed are ignored.<br />
99% of us had no hand in creating these debts nor did we benefit by them, but we are legally bound to pay them?, not according to the Constitution.</p>
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		<title>By: wilson</title>
		<link>http://www.kelowna.com/2009/10/24/if-it-walks-like-a-liberal-talks-like-a-liberal-and-spends-money-like-a-liberal-what-is-it/comment-page-1/#comment-4264</link>
		<dc:creator>wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 15:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;&#039;Difference between the LPC and the Cons here is that Harper campaigned on doing away with this partisan nonsense and bringing greater transparency and accountability to government&#039;&#039;

LOL,  and the Liberals campaigned against stopping partisanship, transparency &amp; accountability?

The coalition of losers was spawned BECAUSE the government would not submit to spending $50 Billion on stimulus funding,
that after &#039;every&#039; party (except the BLOC, who only want &#039;what&#039;s best for Quebec&#039;) campaigned on balanced budgets and no no no deficit, every party.

You LibDippers got exactly what you asked for,
with the exception of not being the ones to hold up those giant government cheques.....

I&#039;m hoping, the next budget will have some serious fat cutting,
 slashing all those vote buying, inefficent and ineffective programs set up by years ands years of LibDipper government!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221;Difference between the LPC and the Cons here is that Harper campaigned on doing away with this partisan nonsense and bringing greater transparency and accountability to government&#8221;</p>
<p>LOL,  and the Liberals campaigned against stopping partisanship, transparency &amp; accountability?</p>
<p>The coalition of losers was spawned BECAUSE the government would not submit to spending $50 Billion on stimulus funding,<br />
that after &#8216;every&#8217; party (except the BLOC, who only want &#8216;what&#8217;s best for Quebec&#8217;) campaigned on balanced budgets and no no no deficit, every party.</p>
<p>You LibDippers got exactly what you asked for,<br />
with the exception of not being the ones to hold up those giant government cheques&#8230;..</p>
<p>I&#8217;m hoping, the next budget will have some serious fat cutting,<br />
 slashing all those vote buying, inefficent and ineffective programs set up by years ands years of LibDipper government!!!</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
		<link>http://www.kelowna.com/2009/10/24/if-it-walks-like-a-liberal-talks-like-a-liberal-and-spends-money-like-a-liberal-what-is-it/comment-page-1/#comment-4236</link>
		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 13:38:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the next federal election, i&#039;m still voting Conservative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the next federal election, i&#8217;m still voting Conservative.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://www.kelowna.com/2009/10/24/if-it-walks-like-a-liberal-talks-like-a-liberal-and-spends-money-like-a-liberal-what-is-it/comment-page-1/#comment-4195</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 13:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Difference between the LPC and the Cons here is that Harper campaigned on doing away with this partisan nonsense and bringing greater transparency and accountability to government.

Ask Kevin Paige how easy it is to get data from this government and then compare the Cdn and US stimulus websites.

Liberals remain Liberals in good times and bad. Cons become Liberals in bad times.

Good to believe in values hey Cons?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Difference between the LPC and the Cons here is that Harper campaigned on doing away with this partisan nonsense and bringing greater transparency and accountability to government.</p>
<p>Ask Kevin Paige how easy it is to get data from this government and then compare the Cdn and US stimulus websites.</p>
<p>Liberals remain Liberals in good times and bad. Cons become Liberals in bad times.</p>
<p>Good to believe in values hey Cons?</p>
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		<title>By: Scott_G</title>
		<link>http://www.kelowna.com/2009/10/24/if-it-walks-like-a-liberal-talks-like-a-liberal-and-spends-money-like-a-liberal-what-is-it/comment-page-1/#comment-4149</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott_G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 06:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no such thing as a surplus.  All the money is the tax payers.  Either they have it or the Gov&#039;t has it.  Therefore, a Gov&#039;t surplus is a Taxpayer deficit.
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Harper is not Liberal.  Playing with the money supply is not liberal its the BOC that would usually do it, but when its unable to get enough money into the economy, the Gov&#039;t in the interest of the Public does so.
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Drop the spin, the Gov&#039;t just took out a loan to take the brunt of the recession.  I think the right words here are, Thank you Mr. Harper.  
Thanks for lowering the GST to cause the economic cycle to have more money in it.  Thank you BOC for dropping the rates, and thank you every gov&#039;t in the world for cleaning up a recession, which is no already on the rebound less than a year later.
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This isn&#039;t about being conservative.  This is about understanding recessions and Harper obviously did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no such thing as a surplus.  All the money is the tax payers.  Either they have it or the Gov&#8217;t has it.  Therefore, a Gov&#8217;t surplus is a Taxpayer deficit.<br />
&#8211;<br />
Harper is not Liberal.  Playing with the money supply is not liberal its the BOC that would usually do it, but when its unable to get enough money into the economy, the Gov&#8217;t in the interest of the Public does so.<br />
&#8211;<br />
Drop the spin, the Gov&#8217;t just took out a loan to take the brunt of the recession.  I think the right words here are, Thank you Mr. Harper.<br />
Thanks for lowering the GST to cause the economic cycle to have more money in it.  Thank you BOC for dropping the rates, and thank you every gov&#8217;t in the world for cleaning up a recession, which is no already on the rebound less than a year later.<br />
&#8212;<br />
This isn&#8217;t about being conservative.  This is about understanding recessions and Harper obviously did.</p>
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		<title>By: dan olson</title>
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		<dc:creator>dan olson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 06:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amazing how what was once &#039;scandalizing&#039; and &#039;abominable&#039; is now the conservatives&#039; right to spend, spend spend. A couple of major differences, if we&#039;re comparing the apples and oranges of mid-1990s and today -- emerging from a recession, the gov&#039;t of Canada took major steps to correct a what amounted to systemic deficit issues in the federal operations. The conservatives of the day had not solved it, in fact had contributed to the growing debt. So all these people slamming Paul Martin for having &#039;dealt&#039; with the deficit should have been out protesting those days, because their memories are incredibly selective.
New regulations were introduced by that government, being prompted by the opposition of the day and the public. In today&#039;s world, the government is above that law and above its own laws and principles. In fact, they&#039;ve adapted to it, putting their own photo, signature and party logo on the cheques. See who&#039;s smiling the most in those photos? It&#039;s the MP who is acting like daddy warbucks.
The conservatives have now dug us into a hole, an unprecedented hole at an unprecedented rate. And they don&#039;t want to be held to account? That&#039;s rich.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazing how what was once &#8217;scandalizing&#8217; and &#8216;abominable&#8217; is now the conservatives&#8217; right to spend, spend spend. A couple of major differences, if we&#8217;re comparing the apples and oranges of mid-1990s and today &#8212; emerging from a recession, the gov&#8217;t of Canada took major steps to correct a what amounted to systemic deficit issues in the federal operations. The conservatives of the day had not solved it, in fact had contributed to the growing debt. So all these people slamming Paul Martin for having &#8216;dealt&#8217; with the deficit should have been out protesting those days, because their memories are incredibly selective.<br />
New regulations were introduced by that government, being prompted by the opposition of the day and the public. In today&#8217;s world, the government is above that law and above its own laws and principles. In fact, they&#8217;ve adapted to it, putting their own photo, signature and party logo on the cheques. See who&#8217;s smiling the most in those photos? It&#8217;s the MP who is acting like daddy warbucks.<br />
The conservatives have now dug us into a hole, an unprecedented hole at an unprecedented rate. And they don&#8217;t want to be held to account? That&#8217;s rich.</p>
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		<title>By: Rose21</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rose21</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 03:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE: &quot;Opposition admits they can’t get the information.
Kevin Page admits he can’t get the information.&quot;
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While many think that info should be readily available, with complicated programs being run out of different agencies it is not always easy to track down data.  Diffent departments have different procedures for things.  Reconciling differences to make info readily available to the public can be a mammoth undertaking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: &#8220;Opposition admits they can’t get the information.<br />
Kevin Page admits he can’t get the information.&#8221;<br />
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While many think that info should be readily available, with complicated programs being run out of different agencies it is not always easy to track down data.  Diffent departments have different procedures for things.  Reconciling differences to make info readily available to the public can be a mammoth undertaking.</p>
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